M-C12/09/26 – 23/10/26All teams
All articlesMechanics · 6 min read

Weather wars in Reg M-C: which weather wins and how long it lasts

Every Reg M-C Regional played so far has been won by a weather team, and in almost every game someone tries to take the opponent's weather away. Knowing which weather stays and how long it lasts decides whole turns. We checked it in the code of the Pokémon Showdown simulator, which reproduces the Champions rules.

By @9shinny ·

Mechanics

The basic rule: the last one wins

There can only be one weather at a time, and the one that arrives later replaces the one before. The abilities that set it on entry (Pelipper's Drizzle, Tyranitar's Sand Stream, Torkoal's or Ninetales' Drought) activate in Speed order, from fastest to slowest. That is why, when two of them start the battle, the weather that stays belongs to the slower one.

An example: with the same Speed investment, Tyranitar (61 base Speed) is slower than Pelipper (65), so if they lead against each other, sand wipes out the rain. If your weather setter is faster than the opponent's and they lead together, you start in the opponent's weather; if it is slower, in yours.

And a detail people forget: setting the same weather again does not refresh it. If Pelipper comes back in while rain is still up, the turn count carries on where it was.

The exception: Charizard Y's sun

Charizard enters the battle without Drought: it gets the ability when it Mega Evolves, and Mega Evolution happens at the start of the turn, after switches and before any attack. So on the turn Charizard Mega Evolves, its sun wins: it does not matter that Pelipper or Tyranitar set their weather on entry, or even that the opponent switches Pelipper in that same turn.

Since Speed is recalculated during the turn in Champions, the change kicks in right away: Venusaur already moves with Chlorophyll that same turn and the opposing Basculegion loses Swift Swim before it attacks. The only way to beat it that turn is to Mega Evolve a weather setter too, like Mega Tyranitar: Mega Evolutions go in Speed order, so the weather that stays belongs to the slower one, almost always Tyranitar.

Example of turn 1. Pelipper set rain on entry, but Charizard Mega Evolves at the start of the turn and Drought replaces it with sun before anyone attacks: Venusaur already has doubled Speed and Basculegion loses Swift Swim.

Five turns, and why a Mega never reaches eight

Weather lasts five turns. If the Pokémon that sets it holds the matching rock (Heat Rock for sun, Damp Rock for rain, Smooth Rock for sand and Icy Rock for snow), it lasts eight. But a Mega holds its Mega Stone and cannot hold a rock: Mega Charizard Y's sun and Mega Tyranitar's sand always last five turns. Pelipper, Torkoal or Hippowdon can extend theirs.

Count the turns carefully. If weather is set in the middle of a turn, that turn already counts as the first. If it is set when replacing a fainted Pokémon at the end of a turn, it lasts five full turns ahead.

What does not exist in Champions

Champions has no Utility Umbrella and no Safety Goggles. Nobody can ignore sun or rain with an item, and only Rock, Ground and Steel types and a few abilities avoid sand: everyone else loses a sixteenth of their max HP at the end of each turn. On top of that, Rock-type Pokémon get 50% more Special Defense in sand.

There is also snow, from Mega Abomasnow and Alolan Ninetales (Snow Warning). It deals no damage, but it raises the Defense of Ice-type Pokémon by 50%, and like any weather, it wipes out the opponent's sun, rain or sand.

How to use it in a game

At team preview, check who sets weather on each side and compare Speeds: if your setter is faster than the opponent's, it may be better not to lead with it and keep it in the back to set your weather again later.

During the game, keep track of the opponent's weather turns and use Protect or switches to wait it out. And if you bring Charizard Y, pick your Mega Evolution turn well: it is the only moment your sun is guaranteed to win.

On the matchups page you can see how sun, rain and sand teams do depending on what the opponent brings.

Check it with data

Everything the blog talks about can be checked in the infovgc tools, free and up to date.

Get it in your inbox every Monday

The weekly VGC meta report, free and nothing else. Unsubscribe in one click.

Controller: Oriol Gonzalez Garcia. Purpose: sending you the weekly report. Legal basis: your consent. Emails are sent by Cloudflare. You can access, correct or delete your data and unsubscribe at any time. You must be 14 or older.